Missing HVAC systems in .OSM file

Hi,

When I save as my pollination model in OSM format, it does not show me the HVAC systems in the OSM model. I did not have this issue before that I was working with Rhino 7, but it appeared to me this time. I am wondering if it could be because of the version of my Rhino(8)/OpenStudio(3.9).

Your help is appreciated.

Hi @mahagh,

It is hard to tell without seeing the model. Can you save your model as an HBJSON and share that with us? We can try to recreate the error on our end.

The change between Rhino 7 → Rhino 8 should not affect the translation of the HVAC systems.

For sure. I just shared it with you in message.

Thanks

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Hi @mahagh,

Thank you for sharing your model. @chriswmackey will correct me but my guess is that the missing HVAC are the result of this validation error in your model.

Let me know if this answers your question.

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Thanks @mostapha,
Even if after solving the setpoint issue I cannot see the HVAC systems in OSM model. I sent you the updated HBJSON file for review.

Thanks,

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Hey @mahagh ,

If you aren’t sure how to set up the detailed HVAC systems, then I recommend sticking to the template HVAC systems from the OpenStudio Standards library. Those will work well across different OpenStudio versions and it’s very hard to set them up in a way that they don’t end up in the OSMs.

I am sure that there’s probably something incorrect about the way that you set up the Ironbug system. Or maybe you set it you with the older version of Ironbug that was using the OpenStudio 3.7 C# bindings and something changed to make the old Ironbug system not work.

Whatever the case, we won’t be able to see your Ironbug systems from a HBJSON. We would need the .3dm which has the Ironbug .gh files embedded within it to see what went wrong with your Ironbug HVAC setup.

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Thank you @chriswmackey,
I am uploading a small sample here with the same issue for your view.
test.3dm (342.7 KB)
test.osm (135.0 KB)

Your help is appreciated.

Thanks @mahagh ,

Sorry it took me a while to look at your files. I think you have probably found a bug in the Rhino plugin. Your sample has the Ironbug HVAC system set up correctly and I can recreate the fact that the HVAC system is not included in the OSM when using the “Save As OSM”.

However, I can easily bring your model into Grasshopper and use the HB Model To OSM to write the model to an OSM with a simple script:


export OSM.gh (26.0 KB)

When I do this, your HVAC system shows up in the OSM just fine:


in.osm (266.1 KB)

So the HVAC is clearly there in your model. It’s just that something about the “Save As OSM” option is not working. I know that @mingbo recently switched a lot of the “Save As” capabilities over to using a different method and there might have been a bug introduced in this process. So I am assigning this issue to @mingbo. He is on vacation at the moment and will be for the next week or so but he is much better equipped to fix the bug that I am.

In the meantime, you can use the Grasshopper script I provided above to get your OSMs from the Rhino plugin and let me know if you experience any other issues.

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Thank you @chriswmackey.

Weirdly it just imports 4 of HVAC systems not all of them. I have more than 10 systems here. And after changing some info in my model, it did not import any system! I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. Anyways, with this method, I do not have my zone names and takes time to recognize them, maybe better to wait for @mingbo to help me to work with the SAVE AS option.

Other than that, when I wanted to simulate the model in Pollination panel, after selecting the recipe I just see a blank white page and no progress from there:


I am wondering what the issue is here.

Thanks again

Hi @mahagh, for addressing the issue with the panel can you install the latest version of the Rhino plugin?

Hi @mostapha, Pollination update solved the issue. Thank you!

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